Saturday, January 1, 2011

2016 Chicago White Sox All-Time All-Stars











All-Time White Sox Insert Cards



Teams Statistics
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Classic White Sox Teams



2 comments:

  1. from Hockeydad55:

    Chicago WS: What stuck out was some of the 1900's guys, like Isbell, Jones, Davis, and Scott. And Scott beats out Frank Smith from the same era, huh? I also like Gary Peters, but your other pitcher choices are solid so I can see how he might miss out.

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  2. Since I'm sure even few White Sox fans know much about either Jim Scott OR Frank Smith (but Kudos to your thoroughness, sir!) let's take a closer look:

    Jim Scott (22.4) was a two-time 20-game winner, though in one of those years he was 20-21. He had a very strong *ERA+ of 121 in 1892 Innings Pitcher over 9 years. Overall he had a losing record, 107-114, but that doesn't figure into WAR. On interesting note: as a rookie in 1909 he pitched 250 innings without giving up a home run, thus leading the league with 0.0 HR/9IP. Home Runs were not as common then, of course, but obviously that at least TIES him for the single season record for lowest HR/9IP.

    Frank Smith (17.0) was also a two-time 20-Game Winner, with an overall record of 108-80. But Smith's *ERA+ was lower, at 111, in 1717.1 Innings over 7 years. So while the outcome was slightly better under Smith, Smith was actually not as effective as Scott.

    I also like Peters, and would likely have included him, if I'd gotten around to doing the pre- and post-1950 All-Time White Sox. A 20-Game winner in '64, with an overall record of 91-78 and an *ERA+ of 115 in 1560 Innings Pitched over 11 years, Peters racked up a WAR of 18.6, putting him 7 places ahead of Smith.

    And HERE'S the kicker...

    Peter's ranked #16 in career WAR. And Wilbur Wood (who counts as the one requisite reliver) was already on the team, ranking 5th with 44.9. So I could have totally included Peters! And I might just have to make a change and do so; we'll see. What happened is this:

    I wanted to make sure Hall of Famer Hoyt Wilhem made a team or two. And to include Wilhelm (12.7) on the ChiSox, I also had to take Keith Foulke (13.9.) Doing this knocked out not only Peters but also Johnny Rigney (19.1). Rigney pitched for 8 years, with time out for WWII, posting a 63-64 record (for some pretty weak teams, I might add) with an *ERA+ of 122 over 1186.1 Innings.

    So... there's no reason I couldn't go back, cut Wilhelm and Foulke, and add back Rigney and Peters. (I'd have to do both though, IF I wanted to get Peters.) For now I think I'll leave it, but I may change my mind at some point in the future...

    ...If enough people tell me I'm nuts. ;)

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